0010101
Nov 27, 05:37 PM
You guys do understand that such an agreement would be so iTunes could include tracks from the Beatles catalog in their store, NOT give them license to use their pick of songs in advertising, right?
With all due respect to the 'Fab Four', it would be pretty silly for Apple to spend a million bucks for the license to use one of their songs in order to promote the songs availability on iTunes.
Let's face it.. most of the folks who want Beatles tracks already have them.. so unless iTunes will be offering some never before released tracks (doubtful) the overall impact that this will have on Apples profits is marginal, at best.
With all due respect to the 'Fab Four', it would be pretty silly for Apple to spend a million bucks for the license to use one of their songs in order to promote the songs availability on iTunes.
Let's face it.. most of the folks who want Beatles tracks already have them.. so unless iTunes will be offering some never before released tracks (doubtful) the overall impact that this will have on Apples profits is marginal, at best.
alent1234
Nov 12, 11:52 AM
No one is saying that they want to do whatever the heck they want. The developers are saying they want to distribute their applications themselves without Apple having to Approve them. Sure, you can distribute applications on the store. It's a great thing. But you should ALSO have the choice to download an application from the internet from a companies website.
The "wankers down in Australia" are running jailbroken phones and clearly didn't read the farking directions. You do that, serves you right to have your phone infected with a worm.
But no one is saying everyone should have complete control over the phone. They're saying they want to distribute the applications themselves if they so choose to.
Palm and Android both allow this if I recall.
there was a thing last week where tweetdeck's new app was pulled because it crashed constantly. most of the problems with Windows over the last 20 years have been third party apps and drivers and not the OS itself, yet MS got the blame. Apple learned a lesson from that. it took MS years to change the architecture to limit bad code from developers
The "wankers down in Australia" are running jailbroken phones and clearly didn't read the farking directions. You do that, serves you right to have your phone infected with a worm.
But no one is saying everyone should have complete control over the phone. They're saying they want to distribute the applications themselves if they so choose to.
Palm and Android both allow this if I recall.
there was a thing last week where tweetdeck's new app was pulled because it crashed constantly. most of the problems with Windows over the last 20 years have been third party apps and drivers and not the OS itself, yet MS got the blame. Apple learned a lesson from that. it took MS years to change the architecture to limit bad code from developers
mdntcallr
Nov 27, 10:57 AM
If an ipod by U2 sold a good amount of units, imagine how many units a beatles unit would?
hell, i hope they make it look nice.
hell, i hope they make it look nice.
Digital Skunk
Apr 11, 07:34 AM
I hate subscription models almost as much as I do data caps.
Agreed. And I think this model has it's pros and cons. More cons though. I personally wouldn't mind "renting" Premier Pro and After Effects when a clients asks for a project done with those tools. Or if I were collaborating and didn't want to have to work with EDLs and XML files for cross platform work.
But renting the entire CS would be crazy for anyone that gets consistent work and has their own rig to work on.
The only times I've upgraded my Adobe software has been when I desperately needed to. I stole up to CS1, bought CS2, needed CS3 to escape Rosetta and was given a copy of Design Premium CS4 from my job. I am looking to upgrade to the Master Collection but I may just wait for CS6, the just spend my time with it for 4 years.
Haha, people still actually buy software from Adobe. The Internet is your friend people.
Don't worry about it. The guys who can't afford to pay for it and pirate it are usually the folks who just want to "hoard" it rather than use it. If they had any talent to begin with, they'd be making enough money with the tool where the cost of it would be meaningless anyway. ;)
KnightWRX is correct . . . . 100% in fact.
Your logic is flawed, kid. You need the right tools, BEFORE you can make money with them.
You are wrong . . . 110% wrong in fact. You are so wrong in fact that it hurts. Tools can't teach you how to design. Any goof-ball can learn Photoshop and Illustrator, but it takes a designer to design.
I tell this to my students now that constantly whine about learning apps, but never getting the concepts down, never thinking abstractly, etc.
And as for pirating (which I was into HEAVY), it's actually far better to just buy the EDU version to learn. It's yours, it comes with less bugs, and I am sure you'll eventually want to get paid for your work yourself, so why not pay the company that's helping you get paid?
Please don't tell me that anyone that actually needs the CS apps can't plunk down $450-$1000 for the EDU version, but will shell out $3000 for an overpriced Mac Pro?
Agreed. And I think this model has it's pros and cons. More cons though. I personally wouldn't mind "renting" Premier Pro and After Effects when a clients asks for a project done with those tools. Or if I were collaborating and didn't want to have to work with EDLs and XML files for cross platform work.
But renting the entire CS would be crazy for anyone that gets consistent work and has their own rig to work on.
The only times I've upgraded my Adobe software has been when I desperately needed to. I stole up to CS1, bought CS2, needed CS3 to escape Rosetta and was given a copy of Design Premium CS4 from my job. I am looking to upgrade to the Master Collection but I may just wait for CS6, the just spend my time with it for 4 years.
Haha, people still actually buy software from Adobe. The Internet is your friend people.
Don't worry about it. The guys who can't afford to pay for it and pirate it are usually the folks who just want to "hoard" it rather than use it. If they had any talent to begin with, they'd be making enough money with the tool where the cost of it would be meaningless anyway. ;)
KnightWRX is correct . . . . 100% in fact.
Your logic is flawed, kid. You need the right tools, BEFORE you can make money with them.
You are wrong . . . 110% wrong in fact. You are so wrong in fact that it hurts. Tools can't teach you how to design. Any goof-ball can learn Photoshop and Illustrator, but it takes a designer to design.
I tell this to my students now that constantly whine about learning apps, but never getting the concepts down, never thinking abstractly, etc.
And as for pirating (which I was into HEAVY), it's actually far better to just buy the EDU version to learn. It's yours, it comes with less bugs, and I am sure you'll eventually want to get paid for your work yourself, so why not pay the company that's helping you get paid?
Please don't tell me that anyone that actually needs the CS apps can't plunk down $450-$1000 for the EDU version, but will shell out $3000 for an overpriced Mac Pro?
whenpaulsparks
Oct 26, 06:11 PM
well, let's see if it stays on long enough to apply the update.
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Chris Bangle
Oct 16, 12:52 PM
I dont want to put anyones hopes up or down but tomarrow is tuesday. And invitations for a media event go out a week before an event which in this case would be next tuesday. So if the fullscreen things gonna happen in time for ipod's birthday invitions will come out tomarrow.... If there are no invites there wont be a fullscreen ipod till january, if there are invites then ipod will be here on tuesday... That is my prediction...
buffsldr
Oct 13, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Source
Oh please!
Apples exists to compete with PCs and one of, if not THE major element of that is having the best/fastest hardware! If Apple didn't want to compete with PCs, then they wouldn't make so much out of the MGz myth and say that "Apple Mac X will outperform Wintel X, even with two thirds of the processor speed!".
Apple needs to do something fast, beause virtually forcing schools across America to take on Macs and whining that Microsoft are big bullies isn't going to help them.
Sorry, i'm being a bit extreme, but i wish Apple would hurry up and do something.
PCs are the competition and releasing an update of a product every six months, while the competition is constantly updating, isn't going to work for them for much longer.
I am shocked to hear you say that "Apples exists to compete with PCs and one of, if not THE major element of that is having the best/fastest hardware!" Apple exists to make money, and part of that means competing with pcs. But again, the motivation is the need to make money, not to compete with pcs for the sake of competing with pcs. Not all users want more power, ease of use is more important than some. I merely suggested that this is a complex problem that requires serious marketing, not simple, uni-variable analysis (eg. faster= more market share). WHere do you consider all the factors of buying a computer? This is why you can never say which computer is "best" At work my pc is tons better than a mac, because I can run ProEngineer (a solid modeling program). At home, my mac is best, because of imovie, itunes, the os, and .mac, etc
Why do you want apple to "hurry up and do something"? You can buy a pc if you want to.
Oh please!
Apples exists to compete with PCs and one of, if not THE major element of that is having the best/fastest hardware! If Apple didn't want to compete with PCs, then they wouldn't make so much out of the MGz myth and say that "Apple Mac X will outperform Wintel X, even with two thirds of the processor speed!".
Apple needs to do something fast, beause virtually forcing schools across America to take on Macs and whining that Microsoft are big bullies isn't going to help them.
Sorry, i'm being a bit extreme, but i wish Apple would hurry up and do something.
PCs are the competition and releasing an update of a product every six months, while the competition is constantly updating, isn't going to work for them for much longer.
I am shocked to hear you say that "Apples exists to compete with PCs and one of, if not THE major element of that is having the best/fastest hardware!" Apple exists to make money, and part of that means competing with pcs. But again, the motivation is the need to make money, not to compete with pcs for the sake of competing with pcs. Not all users want more power, ease of use is more important than some. I merely suggested that this is a complex problem that requires serious marketing, not simple, uni-variable analysis (eg. faster= more market share). WHere do you consider all the factors of buying a computer? This is why you can never say which computer is "best" At work my pc is tons better than a mac, because I can run ProEngineer (a solid modeling program). At home, my mac is best, because of imovie, itunes, the os, and .mac, etc
Why do you want apple to "hurry up and do something"? You can buy a pc if you want to.
Nipsy
Oct 13, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by MacCoaster
Also, 999 of 1000 things which get said here have already been researched by BizDev, R&D, Manufacturing, etc. in Cupertino.
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Clarify please. You just threw that out of the blue. I'm not understanding where you're getting that from.
What I meant to say is that the things we suggest and clamor for here are things which Apple already knows.
We aren't going to alter their course with any of our statements, save for that 1 in 1000.
Apple is a $5-7 billion dollar company (depending on AAPL when you read this). A full fledged chip maturation is a multi billion dollar process, thusly Apple relies on other larger companies to fab its chips. It provides input, but it is a slave to their whims. Sadly, Motorola's whims have not included advancing the G4 at a 'market leading' pace.
We can tell Apple what we want them to do, but they are aware, and they are doing.
A Power4 derivative with 160+ vector instructions just doesn't make sense for IBM to develop, if they don't have a specific user, or feel like adding Vector based instructions to AIX.
So do what you will, but know that you won't change the future in a positive way by vocalizing.
Also, 999 of 1000 things which get said here have already been researched by BizDev, R&D, Manufacturing, etc. in Cupertino.
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Clarify please. You just threw that out of the blue. I'm not understanding where you're getting that from.
What I meant to say is that the things we suggest and clamor for here are things which Apple already knows.
We aren't going to alter their course with any of our statements, save for that 1 in 1000.
Apple is a $5-7 billion dollar company (depending on AAPL when you read this). A full fledged chip maturation is a multi billion dollar process, thusly Apple relies on other larger companies to fab its chips. It provides input, but it is a slave to their whims. Sadly, Motorola's whims have not included advancing the G4 at a 'market leading' pace.
We can tell Apple what we want them to do, but they are aware, and they are doing.
A Power4 derivative with 160+ vector instructions just doesn't make sense for IBM to develop, if they don't have a specific user, or feel like adding Vector based instructions to AIX.
So do what you will, but know that you won't change the future in a positive way by vocalizing.
AidenShaw
Mar 28, 11:03 PM
I figured it would sell out quick...I tried to get approval from my boss this morning, and even said it would sell out in a day or two to rush the decision...unfortunately, I should have said hour or two!
Wow, that was fast. At this rate, next year should sell out within an hour. I think if you wanted to go, you needed to get your bosses approval before it was announced.
The second quote is my response to the first.
But there are larger venues available, so it is certainly possible to limit the number of attendees by choosing a venue that is too small.
Ok, but they are only utilizing Moscone West. Why not rent West and North, South or all three. That would allow them to expand without moving.
But then Apple would lose the hype value of being able to say "sold out in N hours".
Apple is a marketing company above all else.
Next Year is going to suck for buying tickets.
If we went from 8 days to 12 hours what will next year be like?
Next year the WWDC will be in a Holiday Inn in Millbrae (SF airport), because all of the city will be booked for the ADC (Android Developers' Conference). ;)
Wow, that was fast. At this rate, next year should sell out within an hour. I think if you wanted to go, you needed to get your bosses approval before it was announced.
The second quote is my response to the first.
But there are larger venues available, so it is certainly possible to limit the number of attendees by choosing a venue that is too small.
Ok, but they are only utilizing Moscone West. Why not rent West and North, South or all three. That would allow them to expand without moving.
But then Apple would lose the hype value of being able to say "sold out in N hours".
Apple is a marketing company above all else.
Next Year is going to suck for buying tickets.
If we went from 8 days to 12 hours what will next year be like?
Next year the WWDC will be in a Holiday Inn in Millbrae (SF airport), because all of the city will be booked for the ADC (Android Developers' Conference). ;)
citizenzen
Mar 15, 02:53 PM
A little more from the La Monde Diplomatique article (http://mondediplo.com/2008/02/05military) ...
Higher spending, fewer jobs
On 1 May the Center for Economic and Policy Research of Washington, DC, released a study prepared by the economic and political forecasting company Global Insight on the long-term economic impact of increased military spending. Guided by economist Dean Baker, this research showed that, after an initial demand stimulus, by about the sixth year the effect of increased military spending turns negative. The US economy has had to cope with growing defence spending for more than 60 years. Baker found that, after 10 years of higher defence spending, there would be 464,000 fewer jobs than in a scenario that involved lower defence spending.
Baker concluded: “It is often believed that wars and military spending increases are good for the economy. In fact, most economic models show that military spending diverts resources from productive uses, such as consumption and investment, and ultimately slows economic growth and reduces employment”.
Higher spending, fewer jobs
On 1 May the Center for Economic and Policy Research of Washington, DC, released a study prepared by the economic and political forecasting company Global Insight on the long-term economic impact of increased military spending. Guided by economist Dean Baker, this research showed that, after an initial demand stimulus, by about the sixth year the effect of increased military spending turns negative. The US economy has had to cope with growing defence spending for more than 60 years. Baker found that, after 10 years of higher defence spending, there would be 464,000 fewer jobs than in a scenario that involved lower defence spending.
Baker concluded: “It is often believed that wars and military spending increases are good for the economy. In fact, most economic models show that military spending diverts resources from productive uses, such as consumption and investment, and ultimately slows economic growth and reduces employment”.
shecky
Jan 11, 11:30 AM
just caught this on Ars Technica (http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/01/11/macworld-ars-first-banner-up-at-moscone-center).
note the lightweight font, too. thin font.... thin macbook .... hmmmmmmmm
note the lightweight font, too. thin font.... thin macbook .... hmmmmmmmm
ericinboston
Apr 12, 11:52 AM
... then sit back and watch everyone complain about the high priced products! Yeah, sounds like a winner.
And not complain about Apple's margins?
Gimme a break...just because something is manufactured in the USA does not instantly mean it's pricier to the end consumer. There are a LOT of reasons why businesses invest outside the US and typically at the end of the day it's the COMPANY that wants to SAVE money and KEEP THOSE SAVINGS.
Do you really think the company passes 100% of the savings on to the consumer? How about 50% of those savings. Keep going....
And not complain about Apple's margins?
Gimme a break...just because something is manufactured in the USA does not instantly mean it's pricier to the end consumer. There are a LOT of reasons why businesses invest outside the US and typically at the end of the day it's the COMPANY that wants to SAVE money and KEEP THOSE SAVINGS.
Do you really think the company passes 100% of the savings on to the consumer? How about 50% of those savings. Keep going....
WildPalms
Sep 6, 10:27 AM
So, does anyone want to buy this option with their mac and I'll pay the $60 for both of them. Ok... $70 for your time and shipping. ;)
Well, lets see where would they put it? Between Mac Mini and iMac.... you know in that $200 difference. Or maybe between iMac and Pro Mac.... in that what $300 difference. It seems like the Mac Mini bump and iMac expansion have left no room in the line-up for another Mac. Even with conroes... all speeds, sizes, prices are covered. There isn't room for a Conroe Mac. Period.
They probably aren't even going to use Conroe chips because I bet its a lot more work to redesign the iMac to use Conroe and then set up another supply chain just for Conroe chips when they could just use Merom and Woodcrest solely, it seems to fulfill their line-up well and makes it simpler for logistics.
I bet you a BT Might Mouse we won't see a Conroe Mac in the next 4 months.
Spot on and intelligently put. ;)
Well, lets see where would they put it? Between Mac Mini and iMac.... you know in that $200 difference. Or maybe between iMac and Pro Mac.... in that what $300 difference. It seems like the Mac Mini bump and iMac expansion have left no room in the line-up for another Mac. Even with conroes... all speeds, sizes, prices are covered. There isn't room for a Conroe Mac. Period.
They probably aren't even going to use Conroe chips because I bet its a lot more work to redesign the iMac to use Conroe and then set up another supply chain just for Conroe chips when they could just use Merom and Woodcrest solely, it seems to fulfill their line-up well and makes it simpler for logistics.
I bet you a BT Might Mouse we won't see a Conroe Mac in the next 4 months.
Spot on and intelligently put. ;)
webman2k
Apr 12, 08:53 AM
I used to pirate then stopped. A responsible businessman should and in some cases has to when they use their software and hardware for legitimate purposes. It's a major tax write off at least.
I was still in college when I was using CS1 and CS2. Either way, I eventually grew up and purchased the EDU version of the software with my own cash. And at that time by the way, hacked versions were far more unstable. You couldn't update them, you had to run patching scripts ever so often, plugins wouldn't work or would crash the system etc. It was just better to have the legit copy and keep it moving instead of spending time troubleshooting your scripts.
I don't know how it is now, but I know that it was that way up until CS3 based on the students at my job that still pirated software.
I am sure said person (who doesn't work in the design field) would want to take up design and production as a part-time/tennis shoe money job to support their family yet doesn't have the money to get CS so they just steal it??????? :confused:
This person wouldn't want to get a part-time job that doesn't need him to steal? Or he/she could just claim he's/she's a student/educator and pay for the EDU version . . . at the VERY LEAST.
Read the comment thoroughly. ANYONE can learn the apps, any goofball like you stated yourself in the bold. I didn't put any time restraint on this goofball. But I did mention that it take far more to be a good designer.
Yes it is IMHO. Far better than just taking it. At least you are paying something for someone's work. Using your student ID at the movies, camera shop for film and agitator, Apple store, etc is far better than just stealing from them out right.
No hard feelings bro.
All good points. Let's leave it as different people in different circumstances. For the record, it's not right for anyone to pirate software. However, there are some people, in some situations, that feel that doing the right thing at the time isn't always the best thing. Definitely no hard feelings - just discussion.
I was still in college when I was using CS1 and CS2. Either way, I eventually grew up and purchased the EDU version of the software with my own cash. And at that time by the way, hacked versions were far more unstable. You couldn't update them, you had to run patching scripts ever so often, plugins wouldn't work or would crash the system etc. It was just better to have the legit copy and keep it moving instead of spending time troubleshooting your scripts.
I don't know how it is now, but I know that it was that way up until CS3 based on the students at my job that still pirated software.
I am sure said person (who doesn't work in the design field) would want to take up design and production as a part-time/tennis shoe money job to support their family yet doesn't have the money to get CS so they just steal it??????? :confused:
This person wouldn't want to get a part-time job that doesn't need him to steal? Or he/she could just claim he's/she's a student/educator and pay for the EDU version . . . at the VERY LEAST.
Read the comment thoroughly. ANYONE can learn the apps, any goofball like you stated yourself in the bold. I didn't put any time restraint on this goofball. But I did mention that it take far more to be a good designer.
Yes it is IMHO. Far better than just taking it. At least you are paying something for someone's work. Using your student ID at the movies, camera shop for film and agitator, Apple store, etc is far better than just stealing from them out right.
No hard feelings bro.
All good points. Let's leave it as different people in different circumstances. For the record, it's not right for anyone to pirate software. However, there are some people, in some situations, that feel that doing the right thing at the time isn't always the best thing. Definitely no hard feelings - just discussion.
vi2867
Oct 16, 09:29 AM
Yeah, iPods are a fad. Who knows how long this fad will last.
I can tell you one thing, is as long as Apple continues to make them better, and continue to listen to their customers.
It will stop being a fad, and it will be a way of life...
I can tell you one thing, is as long as Apple continues to make them better, and continue to listen to their customers.
It will stop being a fad, and it will be a way of life...
flyfish29
Aug 24, 01:19 PM
4-6 weeks
:)
i'm happy
new battery ordered
I can't find out what number I call to get my new battery- what is it?????
scratch that- I found it, but not it is too busy to take my call and disconnected me and links all are broken right now too- I guess you can do it online as well- but can't get it to load.
:)
i'm happy
new battery ordered
I can't find out what number I call to get my new battery- what is it?????
scratch that- I found it, but not it is too busy to take my call and disconnected me and links all are broken right now too- I guess you can do it online as well- but can't get it to load.
AidenShaw
Sep 6, 08:40 AM
Why not 4GB of RAM?
The system uses some of the 4 GiB of physical address space to map I/O busses and devices.
For example, that 256 MiB of VRAM on the graphics card appears in the physical address space -- which means that only 3.75 GiB is available for real memory. PCIe busses take more, as well as network and other needs. PCI Express reserves a lot of memory for I/O space.
A with a 32-bit chipset the OS has to "ignore" any real memory that's usurped by I/O space reserved addressing. A 64-bit chipset (with a 64-bit OS) doesn't have that problem.
I have a 4 GiB Dell D620, but Windows and Linux only see about 3.1 GiB of that due to the I/O space issues. I expect that OSX86 has the same restrictions - since it's a hardware issue.
IBM only offers 3 GiB configs of the same Yonah/Napa combination - apparently to avoid "where's the rest of my memory" complaints. It looks like Apple is copying IBM's approach.
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The ProMac has a 64-bit capable chipset, so the memory extensions that were used for the PowerMac G5 can be used to avoid this issue.
The Napa chipset is 32-bit - Santa Rosa will be 64-bit.
The system uses some of the 4 GiB of physical address space to map I/O busses and devices.
For example, that 256 MiB of VRAM on the graphics card appears in the physical address space -- which means that only 3.75 GiB is available for real memory. PCIe busses take more, as well as network and other needs. PCI Express reserves a lot of memory for I/O space.
A with a 32-bit chipset the OS has to "ignore" any real memory that's usurped by I/O space reserved addressing. A 64-bit chipset (with a 64-bit OS) doesn't have that problem.
I have a 4 GiB Dell D620, but Windows and Linux only see about 3.1 GiB of that due to the I/O space issues. I expect that OSX86 has the same restrictions - since it's a hardware issue.
IBM only offers 3 GiB configs of the same Yonah/Napa combination - apparently to avoid "where's the rest of my memory" complaints. It looks like Apple is copying IBM's approach.
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The ProMac has a 64-bit capable chipset, so the memory extensions that were used for the PowerMac G5 can be used to avoid this issue.
The Napa chipset is 32-bit - Santa Rosa will be 64-bit.
micvog
Sep 6, 08:57 AM
I believe the GeForce 7600 GT is on par with the X1800 GT, faster in some cases, slower in others. It's a pretty good graphics card. I would just like to see the GeForce 7600 GT bump out the 7300 GT on Mac Pro.
Does anyone know how the 7300GT compares to the X1600? I am leaning towards the 20" to replace my 17" rev. A iMacG5, but would upgrade to the 24" is the GPU is a big bump.
Does anyone know how the 7300GT compares to the X1600? I am leaning towards the 20" to replace my 17" rev. A iMacG5, but would upgrade to the 24" is the GPU is a big bump.
wyrmintheapple
Oct 28, 01:20 PM
so if u have 3 screws, that means it was serviced
my 2 macbook for business came out of the box with 3 screws so would that indicate that they serviced that macbooks before they were shipped to me
No. It has been established already that all the MacBooks have 3 screws. Mine was one of the first to arrive in the UK and It has 3 screws. The pic you just saw is actually from page 6, posted to show how it had 3 screws. This is a photoshop job.
my 2 macbook for business came out of the box with 3 screws so would that indicate that they serviced that macbooks before they were shipped to me
No. It has been established already that all the MacBooks have 3 screws. Mine was one of the first to arrive in the UK and It has 3 screws. The pic you just saw is actually from page 6, posted to show how it had 3 screws. This is a photoshop job.
Burnsey
Nov 2, 05:53 PM
I hate flash. It's slow and resource intensive in OSX, don't know who to blame for that though, Apple or Adobe.
kingtj
Mar 22, 11:55 AM
I'm not saying your "scenarios" below aren't possible ones, but I really believe part of this comes down to people needing to be more selective who they choose to spend the rest of their lives with.
I bought a house, got married, we had a kid, and then got divorced, so I'm not saying I'm perfect ... but I am saying I made some mistakes and learned a lot from them.
Other than the very first job I ever had (telemarketing for a carpet cleaning place), I've always worked in computers and I.T. It's not only my sole source of income, but also a passionate hobby interest outside of work. Knowing this, I finally concluded that it's just plain foolish for me to try to have a serious relationship with any woman who doesn't "get" the whole technology thing, or thinks it's a "big waste of money". And you know what? That rules out a whole LOT of women out there, who can easily rationalize away their "need" for multi-hundred dollar new dresses or pairs of shoes, but just can't see why you could possibly need a new hard drive when "you already bought one of those things just a few years ago!".
Everyone wants different things out of their relationships ... but I'm just speaking for myself here. Some guys really don't CARE how the money they earn gets spent, as long as they've got a roof over their head, food on the table, and a wife and kids to come home to. Others have to be in control of every penny spent. Still others WANT to have to ask their wife for permission all the time, because they feel they're bad at managing money and would rather leave it up to her to do it all for them.
Right now, I'm about to get married to a terrific woman who works in I.T. like I do, and shares a lot of the same values and interests I have. Neither of us makes the kind of income we'd like to make and with 3 kids between us? Things can get pretty tough at times. But I think both of us share the idea that "If you earn the money yourself, you get to spend it on whatever you want. I don't care or need to know, as long as we've both done our share to cover the essentials first."
Obivously:
1. You are not married.
2. You don't understand wives.
-or -
1. You and your wife must fight a lot and you just do it anyway.
2. You rule your house with an iron hammer
-or -
1. You have a relationship where you guys have enough money that neither one of you have to worry about negotiating purchases.
2. Your wife gets whatever, whenever she wants.
3. You only make one purchase for yourself ever 2-3 years.
Trust me in a marraige, it is never as easy as "I am going to buy this." Sometimes to keep the peace, you just gotta say "yep" and do what she wants.
'nuff said
Get married, and own a home or have a kid or two you would will figure it out.
I bought a house, got married, we had a kid, and then got divorced, so I'm not saying I'm perfect ... but I am saying I made some mistakes and learned a lot from them.
Other than the very first job I ever had (telemarketing for a carpet cleaning place), I've always worked in computers and I.T. It's not only my sole source of income, but also a passionate hobby interest outside of work. Knowing this, I finally concluded that it's just plain foolish for me to try to have a serious relationship with any woman who doesn't "get" the whole technology thing, or thinks it's a "big waste of money". And you know what? That rules out a whole LOT of women out there, who can easily rationalize away their "need" for multi-hundred dollar new dresses or pairs of shoes, but just can't see why you could possibly need a new hard drive when "you already bought one of those things just a few years ago!".
Everyone wants different things out of their relationships ... but I'm just speaking for myself here. Some guys really don't CARE how the money they earn gets spent, as long as they've got a roof over their head, food on the table, and a wife and kids to come home to. Others have to be in control of every penny spent. Still others WANT to have to ask their wife for permission all the time, because they feel they're bad at managing money and would rather leave it up to her to do it all for them.
Right now, I'm about to get married to a terrific woman who works in I.T. like I do, and shares a lot of the same values and interests I have. Neither of us makes the kind of income we'd like to make and with 3 kids between us? Things can get pretty tough at times. But I think both of us share the idea that "If you earn the money yourself, you get to spend it on whatever you want. I don't care or need to know, as long as we've both done our share to cover the essentials first."
Obivously:
1. You are not married.
2. You don't understand wives.
-or -
1. You and your wife must fight a lot and you just do it anyway.
2. You rule your house with an iron hammer
-or -
1. You have a relationship where you guys have enough money that neither one of you have to worry about negotiating purchases.
2. Your wife gets whatever, whenever she wants.
3. You only make one purchase for yourself ever 2-3 years.
Trust me in a marraige, it is never as easy as "I am going to buy this." Sometimes to keep the peace, you just gotta say "yep" and do what she wants.
'nuff said
Get married, and own a home or have a kid or two you would will figure it out.
VirtualRain
Mar 7, 03:57 PM
Love the colors, how they are restricted to bands in the image. Love the different patterns present in each of the bands.
Thanks... that's exactly what I was thinking. Although it's too bad there's not more green in there yet :(
Thanks... that's exactly what I was thinking. Although it's too bad there's not more green in there yet :(
SilentPanda
Aug 24, 05:39 PM
Well, I have a 15"PB, A1148, and serial of battery is 3K537xxxx..., but it says no-go on website....
See my post 2 above yours.
See my post 2 above yours.
wildmac
Oct 26, 10:23 PM
any guesses on whether this might be a sign of less or more time before a MacBook refresh by Apple?....